The rivalry between Victoria and South Australia was considered the strongest in state football. [27] However, after 1986, the concept began to wane in popularity in Western Australia, with the entrance of West Coast into the expanded Victorian Football League in 1987. B: Callum Wilkie, Brennan Cox, Shannon Hurn, HB: Brodie Smith, Tom Jonas, Caleb Daniel, C: Jordan Dawson, George Hewett, Connor Rozee, HF: Izak Rankine, Darcy Fogarty, Kysaiah Pickett, F: Tyson Stengle, Rhys Stanley, Lincoln McCarthy, R: Brodie Grundy, Lachie Neale, Rory Laird, I: Chad Wingard, Jason Horne-Francis, Shane Edwards, Sam Draper. Round 7 teams for my rolling All-Australian and State of Origin sides. Speaking with The Courier Mail Lewis believes Walsh's youth and exuberance will be his greatest assets as he makes his Origin debut at just 18. See all Robbos likes and dislikes. Cards $20-$100 in a Cardboard Envelope with Tracking Cards $100 The same applies to the three versus four game and the five versus six game where the winner is promoted one ranking position and the loser is demoted one position. State of Origin has been a long-deceased format in the AFL landscape, but this time of year always tends to breathe some life into the topic. Of the 82 AFL players from the NT in the draft era, only 14 have come from outside Darwin, and the NTFL, directly before being drafted. . No doubt the three big states would dominate but the opportunity is there for any state to win. You must log in or register to reply here. Modified Item. New Zealand (Maori) entered the competition with a draw against New South Wales in Sydney, on 29 June 1889.[2]. [33] However, from 1992 until 1994, unusual timeslots and high ticket prices made the games inaccessible to many spectators. The Northern Territory players could form a team in their own right or the players could be zoned to WA, SA and Queensland. If we did want to entertain the return of Origin, I think the only feasible way to fit something like this in would be to move the pre-finals bye to a pre-grand final bye and have all players not playing in the grand final available for selection. We have endeavoured to collect as many images of these teams over the years which are displayed here: Tex is True Blue Absent in Game 1 last year, Koroisau played in Games 2 and 3 in the No.9 . The Allies are a dark horse in this race, with the best of the rest pulling together quite a team. Players born in the ACT would represent NSW. Similar to the All-Star game in the NFL. The winner of the one versus two game is the AFL champion state. Under this arrangement, the leagues of New South Wales (AFL Sydney), the Australian Capital Territory (AFL Canberra) and Queensland (QAFL) were effectivelly relegated to third-tier status behind the NEAFL and, as a result, any representative matches involving opposition outside of these territories have involved amateur-level leagues. The loser of that game is demoted to third-ranked status for the series the following year. The Allies team, of NSW, Queensland, Northern Territory, Tasmanian and International players, will be selected by SEN Tassie's Jack Riewoldt and David Lithgow. Victoria the birthplace of Australian rules and, with contributing factors such as population and finances, dominated the first hundred years of intercolonial and interstate football. Victorian coach Damien Hardwick and All Stars counterpart John Longmire agreed to ditch the original stipulation of having a maximum of three players from each AFL club to allow the best players in the competition to be involved. Patrick Dangerfield: Had an interrupted season so far. Neil Kerley ranked beating Victoria above his club premierships. Stats from the Herald-Sun for the 2008 game. [69], Many footballers described beating Victoria as one of the top achievements in South Australian football. [74] The Victorian and Western Australian rivalry was summarised in the early part of the 20th century as a friendly rivalry. Just out of interest who'd do ya'll reckon would win if QLD were to Play Tasmania this year(hypothetically)? On Friday, Allana Corbin was the final witness in a four-day inquest into her . With this, the representative football calendar would virtually encompass all of Australia. [52], Amongst the competing states, the rivalry with Victoria was the strongest. I am thinking here of Tasmania in the 60s when it was absolutely a creditable scenario. The two would go on to shape the future of the game for generations. [29] The AFL later gained formal affiliations with these states and territories signalling the end of the NFL's involvement in interstate football. The match was attended by more than 10,000 people. Essendon 15.12 (102) defeated Adelaide 9.14 (68) in the final. 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Garry Lyon described the fans as "hostile and maniacal", and "by the time the games came around they were whipped into a frenzy". The (WAFL) negotiated with the (VFL) for two years before agreement was reached on the format. The idea of having just one SOO game per year between states that would actually care about it could work, i very much doubt the AFL would ever consider it but seriously one SOO game per year would be great for footy lovers and not inconvinience club very much at all. From this day onwards, interstate football would become the domain of the leagues that underpin the AFL. By the 1970s, VFL clubs were signing up an increasing number of the best players from other states and Victoria dominated state games. AFL; Will Schofield: Surprise picks in my AFL Origin teams from Victoria, SA, WA and Allies. State Of Origin was one of the highlights of the footy season before it died a slow death in the late 90s. There were several significant alterations to the laws of the game brought in for the 1994 season: All teams played 22 games during the home and away season, for a total of 165. I might not get around to 1999 games until Monday arvo, as there are not many places around here with a photocopier which are open on the weekend. Followed categories will be added to My News. Players must have played at least 75% of games rounded to the nearest whole number, which currently means 5 . Key - 1979 Perth State of Origin Carnival: Key - 1980 Adelaide State of Origin Carnival: Note - 1980: Double-headers on the 11th of October and on the 13 of October respectively. Three ruckman, three power forwards with Cripps and Fyfe running through the midfield this is a scary team. [75] This is in contrast to the previous years Victoria vs South Australia game in Melbourne, where no such function was held. [41] Only one match was played in 1999, with Victoria 17.19 (121) defeating South Australia 10.7 (67) before a crowd of 26,063 in rainy conditions; it would prove to be the last state of origin game. 3 min read. 1988 NSW State Team in Hobart: 1990 NSW State of Origin Team in Sydney . Josh Kennedy: One of the greatest key forwards of the modern era. Tasmania withdrew from the VFL and relaunched the statewide Tasmanian State League competition in 2009, then in 2011 the AFL created the North East Australian Football League out of established state league teams from New South Wales, the Australian Capital Territory, Queensland and the Northern Territory as well as reserves sides from the four AFL clubs in those regions. [55] Graham Cornes, well known for his involvement in the South Australian team, always spoke equally proudly of the experience of representing his state. The premiership was won by the West Coast Eagles for the second time, after it defeated Geelong by 80 points in the 1994 AFL Grand Final. Cards under $20 will be sent in a Cardboard Envelope. 81.0. dbo: abstract. Fremantle rotates fewer players through centre bounces than the AFLs best sides and the results are telling. Throughout its preState of Origin history, Victoria, as represented by the Victorian Football League, was the dominant state in representative football, winning 16 of the 19 carnivals up until 1975. The other state leagues did take part in the concept, but on a far more limited basis. . [15] In 1959, Victoria beat Western Australia by 178 points, with the loss in Western Australia being taken so badly that it had been reported as potentially being the end of interstate football in the state. Ross Lyon, Matthew Lloyd and Neroli Meadows reveal the State of Origin squads. Free shipping for many products! In Perth, interstate matches at the 1921 carnival, during the 1929 season, and at the 1937 carnival successively set records as Western Australia's highest-ever sports crowd; the crowd of 40,000 drawn to that 1937 match was more than 10,000 higher than any previous Western Australian crowd[43] and almost double the record club grand final crowd at that time. [73][11] Western Australia's rivalry likewise stemmed from the feeling in Western Australia that Victoria never gave their state the credit it deserved, despite some of the best players of all time coming from the state. The games have often attracted crowds of over 10,000, and this has resulted in it being moved from the Whitten Oval to Optus Oval, to Adelaide Oval (South Australia) and finally to Etihad Stadium. Following this series, the VFL decided to not participate in any future carnivals, which put the future of the carnival concept in doubt. Open a modal to take you to registration information, Button that open a modal to initiate a challenge, Find the US States - No Outlines Minefield, Find the Countries of Europe - No Outlines Minefield, FIRST TEST XI's IN AUSTRALIA (CRICKET) 2000/01-2012/13, Universities with Most NFL Draft Picks By Position - OT, Harry Potter Hogwarts Students Logic Puzzle, Harry Potter Gryffindor Characters Logic Puzzle, Harry Potter Dead Characters Logic Puzzle. Adelaide Crows Women's Team: 3 x AFLW premiers. [66] Although there is a bitter rivalry on both sides, the make up of the rivalry is slightly different:[67] for Victoria, being the most successful state in interstate football, it meant that protecting that reputation was of prominent importance;[68] for South Australia, the rivalry stemmed from dislike, and the feeling that Victorians did not give the state the respect it deserved. Tasmania played its first game, against Victoria, in 1887. The size of each club's senior playing list was significantly reduced from 52 to 42 players from the 1994 season (with the exception of the struggling. The series took place on approximately three-yearly intervals between 1908 and 1993; these were usually a fortnight-long tournament staged in a single host city, although some particularly those played in the 1980s were based on the results of matches played in different cities throughout the year. Dougal Howard: Grew up in Wagga Wagga, just misses out due to very strong key defensive stocks. Anyone can contribute to The Roar and have their work JavaScript is disabled. Ben Brown: Just edged out for the third key forward spot by Jack Riewoldt. A couple of years later, the NEAFL would be represented by a single team. [12], In the second game between South Australia and Victoria after war, the states participated in the second representative draw, in a high scoring affair with the side locked in at 123 to 123 at full time. All AFL Teams. [17], In the first half of the 1960s saw a brief changing of the guard, with South Australia and Western Australia recording several wins over Victoria,[18] and an upset win by Tasmania over Victoria in 1960, considered one of Tasmanian football's greatest moments. 1997-present. That series saw Origin return to Melbourne, this time in front of 87,161 at the Melbourne Cricket Ground, and NSW ruin Meninga's farewell with wins at the MCG and Lang Park. The second carnival was played in 1911, in Adelaide, which set the pattern of a carnival every three years. After watching his side's emphatic bounce-back 34-10 victory over Queensland at ANZ Stadium, NSW coach Brad Fittler all-but admitted he got the Blues' preparation wrong in Game 1. At no point in time did the VSFL have control of the AFL or have any involvement with the AFL's State of Origin teams. Language links are at the top of the page across from the title. See the profits raised for the RSLs Anzac Appeal. At its peak, interstate matches were among the most important events on the annual football calendar in South Australia, Western Australia and Tasmania. But, at its lowest, interstate games in Victoria during the 1930s could sometimes fail to draw 10,000 spectators less than the average home-and-away crowd at a time when state record crowds were drawn to the matches elsewhere. [82] While Queensland has shied away from competing in carnivals that include the stronger states, the neighbouring states have played at times annually. Following the onset of World War I interstate matches went into a five-year hiatus. There was no relevance to the games, they were merely revenue-raising events to support the Test series, as they are today along with T20. If there are any better ideas as to putting these stats into this thread, let me know, but I'm no computer wiz. This page is not available in other languages. Victorian team that was defeated by South Australia in the 1994 AFL State of Origin clash. [23] When the 1988 Adelaide Bicentennial Carnival ran at a loss, the carnival concept was considered near finished. Note - 1985: The match between South Australia and Victoria was awarded to South Australia on protest, as a result of Victoria playing with 4 interchange players instead of the permitted 3 interchange players.[3].[84]. Knuckey, (book) EJ Ted Whitten, Jim Main & Friends, author Ted Whitten, first-ever intercolonial representative match, Golden Jubilee of "Australasian football", State of Origin for Bushfire Relief Match, 1908 Jubilee Australasian Football Carnival, "07 Jul 1923 - VICTORIANS IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA - Trove", "20 Jul 1933 - PADDY HEBBARD, SAYS - Trove", "09 Aug 1924 - Australian Football Carnival.. ROUT OF THE QUEENSLANDERS - Trove", "Australian Football - Southern Tasmanians toss the Croweaters", "15 Aug 1925 - Thirteen Points to the Good - Trove", "Australian Football - Epic+duels+between+WA+and+Victoria", "16 Jun 1928 - Interstate Football Match Ends in Exciting Draw - Trove", "29 Jun 1946 - South Aust. Tom Lynch: Hes having a great season but too many key forwards, so I favoured the youth of Max King. These states would be rated one to six based on the previous Origin series but for the first series a little common sense would be required. [17] In 1974 the Northern Territory first participated in the concept, with a win over Queensland.[22]. An additional 9 games were played during the finals series. Join FREE and support Australia's favourite footy community. [9] In 1923 & 1925 Victoria lost shock upsets to New South Wales. . Particularly during the pre-State of Origin era, the Victorian team was always expected to win and regularly won easily; therefore, Victorian spectators were disinclined to attend matches because there was little importance on offer for victory and a high chance of a one-sided contest. This was the case in the first-ever intercolonial representative match, held on Tuesday, 1 July 1879 (a public holiday), at East Melbourne Cricket Ground. No. [79], There was also an intense rivalry between Western Australia and South Australia,[80] with fans at games between the states always vociferous and parochial.[81]. [77], Some games widely regarded as some of the best in the history of Australian football were played between Victoria and Western Australia in the 1980s. Champion also wrote another song, Came From Adelaide, about two people watching a game between South Australia and Victoria. [23], Also in 1970 after a decade of surprise upsets, and large disappointing defeats, Tasmania recorded a memorable victory over Western Australia. Back: Sam Docherty, Jacob Weitering, James Sicily, Halfback: Jack Sinclair, Jake Lever, Tom Stewart, Centre: Ed Langdon, Touk Miller, Bailey Smith, Half-forward: Toby Greene, Jeremy Cameron, Christian Petracca, Forward: Charlie Curnow, Max King, Dustin Martin, Ruck: Max Gawn, Clayton Oliver, Marcus Bontempelli, Interchange: Jack Crisp, Andrew Brayshaw, Sam Walsh, Sean Darcy. The widening gap between the three major footballing States/leagues and the others was shown in the organisation of the competition: Victoria (represented by the VFL), South Australia and Western Australia constituted "Section A", and Tasmania, New South Wales, Queensland and New Zealand constituted "Section B". [26], Between 1983 and 1987 there was a new format introduced, with only Victoria, South Australia and Western Australia competing, where each team would play each other once during the year, rather than in a standalone carnival, and with a points system and percentage used to declare the winner. Advertising was permitted for the first time on the backs of guernseys. 2022-present. In the spirit of reconciliation the AFL acknowledges the Traditional Custodians of country throughout Australia and their connections to land, sea and community. With the advent of interstate teams into the expanding VFL and its eventual re-badging and change to a national league in 1990, the state leagues undertook steps to ensure that representative football would not be reserved solely for those players in the Australian Football League. The only player in the top 10 in last year's Brownlow Medal count who won't be involved is West Coast marquee recruit Tim Kelly, who is being managed. State of Origin matches between the two in the 1980s were promoted to capitalise on the popularity of the Rugby League State of Origin. [23] After the match with the result not taken well in the west, because of the observation that this had been a regular occurrence, it was first started being mentioned that games should be played on State of Origin criteria. [5] The 1923 South Australian upset loss to an undermanned Tasmania. What options do the Dockers have to fix their midfield? Queensland squad Jai Arrow AJ Brimson Kurt Capewell Daly Cherry-Evans Xavier Coates Tino Fa'asuamaleaui Kyle Feldt David Fifita Moeaki Foutiaka Dane Gagai Harry Grant Coen Hess Valentine Holmes Felise Kaufusi Reed Mahoney Cameron Munster [20] Graham Cornes, who was coached by Kerley for South Australia and was later a coach and central figure in the promotion of interstate football in South Australia, later stated that his hatred for Victoria came from Neil Kerley, and in establishing the culture in South Australia of wanting to prove superiority over Victoria. State stars: North Melbourne's Ben Cunnington, Shaun Higgins, and Todd Goldstein. See highlights and match replays from the NRL, Women's Premiership, and State of Origin. The third and fourth teams to commence intercolonial competition were New South Wales and Queensland, playing each other in a two-game series in Brisbane in 1884; the result of the series was a one-all draw. With the NRL's State of Origin taking place over the next six weeks, there is always plenty of talk about the AFL reintroducing the concept. Let me know if you think it is actually worthwhile me trying to do this. But if scientists are on track to bring the woolly mammoth back from extinction, as they claim they are, then the AFL should be able to do the same with rep footy.. And the best part is that it will be a lot easier to resurrect State Of Origin than it will the ancient herbivore. With game one of the real Origin just around the corner, Ive decided to see what your state would look like if we picked Origin teams for the AFL. It is, however, something that would also have to be determined in a logical way because the first three or four years of such a series would be greatly influenced by the decisions. The first was the AFL Hall of Fame Tribute Match, held on a free weekend in 2008 as part of that season's celebration of the 150th anniversary of the birth of Australian rules football. Greg Champion wrote a song, "Don't Let The Big V Down", about the traditional navy blue jumper with a large white V used to represent Victoria in state games. $ 35.99 - $ 55.99. One of them turns to the other and says that the Croweaters cannot play. Newly appointed chief executive Andrew Dillon has made an indication on when he would like the grand final to be held. The other replies that this is not true and that the South Australians are great. Anything close to his best has him as an automatic selection in this side. Darcy Moore: At his best one of the most dynamic defenders in the comp. Some of the carnivals the format consisted of qualification matches at the start of the tournament, with the winners playing off in a final. In fact, what would normally have been a "bye" year for the SANFL, WAFL or VFL allows them to instead play the NEAFL or the TSL. Pick the best team and compete with other fans for daily prizes on Draftstars. [7][8] In the 1925 calendar year, Canberra played its first match against New South Wales. As a response to the 2019/20 Australian bushfires, the AFL announced they would hold a one-off addition of the AFL State of Origin to raise money for Australians affected by the fires. [29] A record State of Origin crowd of 91,960 at the match (significantly exceeding the VFL's prediction of 70,000) signalled a strong return. But ask a person a year down the track about that series, most people would need to be reminded of which teams actually played, let alone who won. The "Big 3" in the SANFL, WAFL and VFL entered into an agreement in 2003 to adopt a program where they would play each other in a rotational system over three years, which saw one state either sit out interstate football for one season or require that league to find alternative opposition. Players contest a mark at the Australian Football Carnival, in 1933, at the Sydney Cricket Ground. Interstate matches were, in most cases, sanctioned and coordinated by the Australian National Football Council (ANFC), which organised every national championship series from the first-ever national carnival, the Jubilee Australasian Football Carnival in 1908 with the exception of the last-ever series: the 1993 State of Origin Championships, which was run by the AFL Commission. Jack Graham: The Richmond onballer was just edged out by the excitement surrounding No.1 draft pick Jason Horne-Francis. The song is about a young man who is about to play his first state game and is approached by another man, who is Ted Whitten, and tells him to not let the Big V down. A full interstate carnival under state-of-origin selection was held with success in October 1979 in Perth. [71] Paul Roos commented about the first state game he played in South Australia that "when walking up the entrance and onto Football Park was an experience in itself. Scott Lycett: An injury-interrupted season has seen Sam Draper take his spot as the backup ruckman. Queensland has named a 20-man squad for the first State of Origin game against New South Wales on June 9. I experimented with how well the above game would scan into Big Footy after photocopying the stats. Can be heard on Fox Footy, Perth radio 6PR and his podcast Backchat. bring it back. -49%. The number of interchange players was increased from two to three which, when added to the "run on" team of 18 on-the-field players, increased the standard team squad size to 21 players. Banfield was Ginbey 30 years ago and, for what it's worth, he reckons Ginbey is going to be okay despite . [6] Also in 1924 South Australia recorded the concepts highest winning score, winning by 268 points to defeat Queensland in Hobart.
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