7-iron - 30 degrees. (used to hook, now after lessons - ongoing - cannot hook even if i try to.. still hope to get back to a nice draw..) . Both Rory and Day hit big moon balls. How accurate are the loft and lie readings of clubs straight from the manufacturer? They are just tweaking the sets to fit their distance needs. [quote name='Dan Drake' timestamp='1441041993' post='12239944'] more upright = more of a draw, more flat= fade. Strong lofts are only part of the equation that today's golf club engineers use to help you hit their irons further. 6-iron launch: 17* [/quote] But back to the original question, to sum up: Weakening lofts or going to weeaker lofts refers to increasing loft angle going from, say, 27 degrees in your 5-iron to 29 degrees in your 5-iron. My swing has changed over the years a fair bit, yet i've always needed irons a bit upright from standard (a Euro standard although even that isn't really set in stone or anything).. If anything I am a digger in the golf swing. Swing: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRK_GXV7rDg"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRK_GXV7rDg[/url] (Driver FV) The most easy 'drill' is just hit it lower visually place a hoola hoop a few feet downline and hit the ball through it. Does the aggressive swing impart that much more dynamic loft and create that much more spin? The most popular brand is Golfsmith which manufactures high-quality loft/lie bending machines. [quote name='bigo2398' timestamp='1444240339' post='12423306'] Let me know what you think of the idea and/or if you have other suggestions to control my spin/launch, I'd love to hear them. In our forums, our members have been discussing modern irons with stronger lofts and whether they are easier or harder to play than older irons. 4 iron 24 200 Terms & Conditions It can be re-bent without any adverse effect on it. While you can theoretically bend fairway woods and hybrids, the design and loft of irons mean that you can bend them to ensure that they're consistent from one club to the next. When you consider the fact that bending your golf clubs can make them easier to hit, you can see that its a great value for money option to consider, particularly when compared to investing in a new set of game improvement golf clubs. Quote Link to comment And that is forged soft steel clubheads and there are several forging methods and processes available. I think most guys out there play less or equal loft to most retail sets out there these days. Are their ways to ensure a club wont break? The key variable ( among other variables) is the distance from your wrists to the ground at address. I agree with what you're saying entirely, I know I have to get my spinloft down. Setting aside the discussion about why lofts are getting stronger, I was wondering why someone would bend the lofts strong rather than use the next club in the bag and swing smooth. How do they test to determine which launch angle best suits you. Takomo Golf Clubs Review: (As Good as Expected? A Good Fit for a Clubfitter is the Post Fit. No, they are talking about the lie, not the loft. X Forged UT 20 w/PX Callaway XR Pro 9* Matrix Red Tie 65x Just be mindful that high-quality cast irons will be a little more difficult to bend and require a specialist bending machine. Display as a link instead, Anything more than 2 degrees and the effect on offset is noticeable Pasted as rich text. [quote name='AustinA' timestamp='1444322114' post='12428254'] bigo2398, August 31, 2015 in WRX Club Techs. If there are a more than normal amount of clubs that you are seeing like this then I do not know what to say. YOU have to be in control of trajectory in your iron play, tweaking your specs is just a bandaid. Now of course this does not apply to all golfers by any means. What bouncedoes is keep the leading edge from digging into the ground. The 4 iron will have a negative bounce if you bend them 2 degrees. Hes happy to answer any of your questions! [/quote] IMO there is no reason to start bending your Titleist strong dude. I'm curious about this as well. Here are some of the facts, and fallacies, about club adjustment. (I think) I know this isn't real complexI guess what I'm asking is, I'm not sure what he testedI'm guessing lie since I hit on a board. TXG Custom Mizuno T20, 50/05, 59/06, Nippon 950H Neo. 5-G It is very easy to do these modifications, and also recommended by a lot of folks to have your set checked either frequently or at the end of each year in case any changes happened during the season from general play. 6 iron SS: 95.5 mph One way to make the necessary adjustments to your golf clubs is to bend them. Some people do it to improve their ball flight, while others do it because they think that their golf clubs have been poorly manufactured. Learn how to control your irons from multiple ydgs. [quote name='cxx' timestamp='1444396444' post='12432280'] You need to make sure that bending your clubs is right for your game, as you dont want to jeopardize what you already have. Fit the lie angle so that when [b]YOU[/b] swing that club the sole of the club is 'flat' to the ground ie neither too upright nor too flat - this is when the impact tape on the sole of the club will show the impact/rubbing to be in the middle of the sole. Does the aggressive swing impart that much more dynamic loft and create that much more spin? Or, (tinfoil hat on) TMAG wants him to be the poster boy for how long their new irons are and this way they get to hear McCord gush about how Day hit a 168 yard 9 iron. Bubba might better be able to answer that question, I know you can with the mb or cbs. [quote name='bigo2398' timestamp='1441037749' post='12239474'] Or, (tinfoil hat on) TMAG wants him to be the poster boy for how long their new irons are and this way they get to hear McCord gush about how Day hit a 168 yard 9 iron. If you want to add more loft to hit it a bit higher you can do so, but you will sacrifice some distance. Callaway Rogue Max LS 9* Tensei AV Blue 6, Titleist TSi3 strong 3w 13.5* PX HSRDUS black 70, Titleist TS3 19* hybrid Tensei Blue/Titleist TS3 23* TenseiBlue, Vokey SM8 50*F & 56*M Callaway Jaws MD5 60*. You would still have to take the next club down to get to the distance you want. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. I would never ever think of doing this on my own. Note where the player's 'natural' lie angle is - ie the neutral/normal lie angle as above - but then intentionally bend the lie angle to mitigate their hook/slice tendencies. Hogan was big into this. ps my irons are bent (or when i got my Pings, ordered) 2 degrees up ;-) ) - this was to get the sole flat at impact honest. Diamana GT 70 TX TM Tour Tip. You should absolutely give it a try with a few clubs and see what you think, you can always go back and it might just work. Titleist SM8 50/56 W/ LAgolf, Callaway Jaws Raw 60Z /Kbs 610 get to work on improving your spinloft with your irons (I'm assuming this gets really really bad with you shortest clubs). So if you are steep or tend to take a pretty good divot, you may not want to bend them more than a degree. [size=5][b] I've noticed that some of the higher launching/spinning players on tour (Rory, J-Day, etc) have their irons bent strong and I'm looking to hear some pro's and con's of doing this. I can do that with my 5 iron.. Oh wait never mine. [/quote] It wouldn't surprise me if that's exactly why Jason Day chooses to play 4-P all bent a club strong. So, unless you plan on bending a significant number of golf clubs (and you plan on doing it more than once), it makes much more sense to pay a club-fitter to bend your golf clubs on your behalf. Day in particular looks like he's always hitting 100% or more. There are the following reasons why you want to bend a club head. If you don't like bend them back. Are Tommy Armour Clubs Good? The mark on the sole will show if your clubhead is level or toe up or down at impact. IMO there is no reason to start bending your Titleist strong dude. Which is more typical to change? Titleist Pro V1x Can then bend the irons to get the sole level at impact - or with Ping you'll order them to suit. Pw from 48* to 45*), that I will completely mess up the grind and . Perhaps he likes the look of offset and that's how he chooses to get it done. While you can theoretically bend fairway woods and hybrids, the design and loft of irons mean that you can bend them to ensure that theyre consistent from one club to the next. I read your comments on why some bend lofts on iron sets strong and i try to swing smooth because to me swinging hard offers little to no benefit ,please remember im talking about me and not others in general , i have lost speed on my swing over the last 5 years where it was noticable to me , but i truly started losing speed after my rotator cuff and bicep tendon tear on my right arm , i cant say it was a noticable difference but that is when it started in 2010 is when i started bending all my irons strong because of lost distance because i was hitting irons 1/4 to 1/2 a club different and it progressed over the next few seasons to a full 1/2 a club or about 2 degree's and then came a hip replacement in 2014 and when i got back to playing regularly i was bending a 46 degree wedge to 43 degree / 9 iron 39 degree's and so on and i did that to try to get to the same distance i had in 2010 where i hit GW 110 / PW 120 /9 iron 130 and it progressed from there .. There does seem to be an abrupt cut off on the minimum iron loft at slower swing speeds. [/quote] Why not take one more club, and how much distance do you gain with 1*. Your previous content has been restored. I'm also a very high spin player and I'm thinking this might help keep my iron distances consistent, especially when playing in the wind which I often do. YOU have to be in control of trajectory in your iron play, tweaking your specs is just a bandaid. If you don't like bend them back. But my arms are more like someone 6'4" to 6'5". [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pszXHplqx4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pszXHplqx4[/url] (DTL). [quote name='dlygrisse' post='1857448' date='Aug 1 2009, 11:07 PM']When buying shoes I noticed a lot of the shoes in the stores inventory were size 10.[/quote] Taylormade M6Callaway Steelhead XR 4+Mizuno MP-18 mb 4-PWTitliest SM7 50f, 54s, 58dSC Phantom X 5.5. Lie angles are easiest to adjust in forged irons; sometimes not possible to adjust in cast irons. Used to be 6'1" but I've shrunk a little. Yes, when we talk of bending golf clubs, the iron family are the best candidates. And provided the hosel of the wood is long enough to allow the bending bar to fit over its length, metal woods can be bent to custom-fit a player. Ultimately, your answer is yes, you can do this. Personally have occasionally weakened wedges and rarely, irons in order to help dial in or normalize distance gapping, never more than 2 degrees." So stronger lofts = less bounce = more offset. [quote name='clemsondds' post='1858228' date='Aug 1 2009, 07:36 PM']Ok thanks ya'll. There is no standard lie so the actual lie angle could be anything. My wingspan finger tip to finger tip is 78". Using an example of bending a full club strong, say 4*, what's the difference in hitting a 7 iron at *32 to hitting a 6 iron at *32. I am 6ft tall and was fit into 2 deg upright. And that changes the flight of the ball right? The only way you would see a difference is if you put them side by side with another set of Ap2's that are not bent. Maybe get a cheap 6 or two off eBay and try it? I would be pleased with them. SW: 56* Scratch Tour Dept(CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner Here are the lofts of the irons in that set. I agree with these two reasons here. But if the bounce is already minimal you start going into negative bounce. which leads to your observation since a rather huge majority of golfers slice the ball (even if they like to call it a fade) then a simple band-aid is to bend it more upright.. in the same way most drivers have their faces set closed at address and also with far more upright lie angles than 'fits'. It's all about control and the less flex, the better the control. MEMBER REVIEWS: Cleveland Frontline Elite Putters! Let me know what you think of the idea and/or if you have other suggestions to control my spin/launch, I'd love to hear them. [/quote] 54*, 58* TM TP wedges 3* flat. Believe it or not, my spin loft used to be worse, but I'm kind of in a rut right now. 7 iron 34 165 Still have questions? GIVEAWAY! Ultimately, your answer is yes, you can do this. It would definitely not work for me but might be ok for you. [quote name='AustinA' timestamp='1444322114' post='12428254'] Albion, MI 49224 You can post now and register later. Machines that adjust for all hosel positions, such asMitchell Angle Machinesare accurate regardless of the offset or hosel design of the golf club. [img]http://pxc86358mpx1hyn3hdxen4o1.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/171831.png[/img]. [/quote] You absolutely can buy a golf bending machine to use at home, but you will find that theyre super expensive, typically costing several hundred if not thousands of dollars. YOU have to be in control of trajectory in your iron play, tweaking your specs is just a bandaid. Standard length and lie are perfect for me. The flex will be X-stiff or XX-stiff for the strong pros who hit the ball a mile. [/quote] These are forgiving clubs so you can work on this new action and learn it in relative safety. I would think if anything it just shows that some taller people are getting into golf. '19 Apex Pro 5-A w/PX The majority of handicap golfers fight a slice. However, correcting the loft and angle by bending the clubs is a super quick way of fixing this issue. I've noticed that some of the higher launching/spinning players on tour (Rory, J-Day, etc) have their irons bent strong and I'm looking to hear some pro's and con's of doing this. PW-iron - 44.5 degrees. Believe it or not, my spin loft used to be worse, but I'm kind of in a rut right now. Clear editor. Currently I'm playing 712 MB's with x100 shafts at standard loft. If you wanted to know more about how the process works of bending the loft and lie angle of clubs, watch the video below from Mitchell Golf: Although golfers often buy new golf clubs instead of modifying their current irons, bending clubs is a great way to make changes to the loft of your clubs to help you improve your accuracy and consistency. [/quote] I had a lot of success bringing my spin rate and trajectory down to something more playable in the wind by tweaking the lofts a little strong. [quote name='ijohnson' timestamp='1441070745' post='12242666'] He wanted to see the club face wide open. What do you mean about not seeing any changes in your irons? Nike VR Pro LE 15*, 'Ahina 75s Pw 45 131, Hickory Bag: Brassie, Mid Iron, Mashie, Mashie Niblick, Niblick, Putter, Driver: PXG 12*; HZDRUS Handcrafted 63 6.0, Long Game: PXG 13*, PXG 16*; HZDRUS Handcrafted 83 6.5 (flip between the two), Driving Iron: PXG 0311 4 iron bent 17.5*; ProForce VTS 100HX (finally found a driving that works), Irons: NIKE VR Pro CBs Raw 4 - PW: Aldila RIP Tour 115 s,these are similar length irons (4 iron 37.75, PW 36.25)7, Wedges: Titleist Vokey 50F, 54D, 58S: DG S300 (will sometimes add in the 58* on shorter courses), Putter: Scotty Cameron Studio Design #5 35 inches: Super Stroke GP Tour. [/quote] I had a lot of success bringing my spin rate and trajectory down to something more playable in the wind by tweaking the lofts a little strong. Learn how to hit clubs different ydgsthe pros are very good at doing this When this happens, its usually the result of some type of inconsistency in the metallurgy of the club. Anything more than 2 degrees and the effect on offset is noticeable 6-iron launch: 17* Flex options determine the amount of bend in the shaft when force is applied to it as in a golf swing. You should only really bend your golf clubs yourself if you have the right equipment at home to do the job. Perhaps he likes the look of offset and that's how he chooses to get it done. Pleased in both regard, distance and ball flight is good. To make sure shots are flighted properly, lighter shafts are usually used in stronger-lofted models, like the KBS Max in Callaway's Rogue and TaylorMade M4. Of course the 4* bend is just to illustrate the point but it's better than describing everything in fractions of clubs. He went with his new driver in the adjustable Upright position at 9* and he's loving it. A lot of higher handicap players have an over the top, steep down swing so 2 deg up helps cut down on slicing, particularly with the longer irons. more upright = more of a draw, more flat= fade. [/quote] Any adjustment to loft will alter the bounce angle on the sole. It is just a way to fit the club for your swing, nothing that is . 6 iron 29 183 Just because you have 130 yds to pin doesn't mean it's automatically a PW..depends on alot of factors Tour Velvet Midsize Grips. Iomic Golf Grips: 8 Key Facts Before You Buy. I would be VERY patient during this process of changing your ball position. move it forward again, then repeat. thanks[/quote] In other words, make your 7 the length and lie of an 8, which should reduce the spin a bit. Clubs are mass-produced with certain manufacturing variances in every factory. Let me know what you think of the idea and/or if you have other suggestions to control my spin/launch, I'd love to hear them. Since the upright lie tends to assist golfers in hitting the ball right to left, it's going to help the masses who tend to have to commonest swing fault - left to right. Thanks for everybody for your help! I agree with what you're saying entirely, I know I have to get my spinloft down. Sign up to receive product offers and news! It is true that bounce changes with loft on a 1 to 1 basis, but I think that unless you are bending an iron 2*+ that you will see a significant change in playing characteristics due to the change in bounce. [quote name='bigo2398' timestamp='1444240339' post='12423306'] So I'm in the process of getting new irons and I'm curious about the idea of getting them bent a degree or two strong. Testing for correct lie angle is very easy - they'll put some tape along the sole of the club and get you to hit balls off a lie board (just a hard surface, can use the mat also but a good flat hard surface makes the mark easier to see). There's a reason good players don't just grab any club off the rack and change their swing to match the clubs. There is no worry about bending a club that was bent last year or last week. Anything more than 2 degrees and the effect on offset is noticeable Do you have any recommendations for drills or things to practice in order to improve it? Setting aside the discussion about why lofts are getting stronger, I was wondering why someone would bend the lofts strong rather than use the next club in the bag and swing smooth. Every set of clubs sold should have some sort of custom work on them if fitted properly. Why do Pro's and some amatures have their irons bent 1* stronger. Do you just go by the distance you hit them, and if you don't like your gaps you bend them a little? A 4 iron only has 1 degree of bounce standard so will I have negative bounce when bent two degrees strong? 1. I had my Vr pros bent 2* strong and it did both. The Senior pros are able to compete with their graphite shafted irons, but the modern . (Worth the Money?!). I agree with what you're saying entirely, I know I have to get my spinloft down. as many have already said, a more upright lie sort of "fixes" the leak to the right. Yes, that above but This can significantly alter the way that you strike the ball and can save you a fortune as far as upgrading, or changing clubs is concerned. You cannot paste images directly. Did I just answer my owne questions, do pro's bend the clubs stronger to have less bounce? Of the 59 irons surveyed in the chart, if a traditional 7-iron is 34 (thanks to this GolfWeek article ), that means 15 of them are 34 or 1 weaker than traditional loft, AND 44 are 1 or more stronger. To help you decide whether or not to bend your golf clubs, we take a deep dive into the practice in the following sections and explain what to expect in detail. All rights reserved. Taylormade Aeroburner TP 15* GD AD-BB 7x. I am now thinking I am just going to bend my 712 Ap2 irons to the 714 AP2 specs so my gaps will match up better with my wedges. Maybe it's just me but it seems you can't change the relationship between the loft of the club and the spin, given you're putting the same swing on it. Edel E-3 Torque Balanced 36", 345g, Golf Pride Tour SNSR Contour 104cc Can then bend the irons to get the sole level at impact - or with Ping you'll order them to suit. Let me know what you think of the idea and/or if you have other suggestions to control my spin/launch, I'd love to hear them. There's a reason good players don't just grab any club off the rack and change their swing to match the clubs. Currently I'm playing 712 MB's with x100 shafts at standard loft. All gripped w/ Lamkin Crossline ACE Midsize, with buildup tape 15.5mm RH/16mm LH. Weaker lofts mean (all other things being equal) getting the ball up into the air quicker, and a little higher trajectory on your shots. For example, when the club is flat, the toe of the club makes contact first and gets slowed down a bit so the clubface opens a bit promoting a fade. 4. Believe it or not, my spin loft used to be worse, but I'm kind of in a rut right now. The pros that adjust their lofts are doing so to not only control ball flight but give them consistent distances between clubs. The angle and loft of your golf clubs are extremely important. Using an example of bending a full club strong, say 4*, what's the difference in hitting a 7 iron at *32 to hitting a 6 iron at *32. You're actual numbers are really not that bad, they a bit over the PGA tour average but I'm not sure it's worth adjusting all your clubs over. Therefore, if youre planning to bend your high-quality cast clubs, our advice remains the same check in with a local club fitter in your area and ask them to complete the work on your behalf. Let me know what you think of the idea and/or if you have other suggestions to control my spin/launch, I'd love to hear them. By I wish I had 95 mph with anything. Do you have any recommendations for drills or things to practice in order to improve it? 2 deg flat seems to work pretty well for me. Contact Us Do you just go by the distance you hit them, and if you don't like your gaps you bend them a little? To bend a club effectively, you need to use a club bending machine or take your clubs to a professional to do it on your behalf. TM tends to increase the bounce on their irons about 50% of the loft change. He had me hit on a board and said that I needed 1/2 inch long. Mizuno JPX-800 Pro 5-P, X100 6-iron spin: 6850 RPM ), Are Cobra Golf Clubs Good? Display as a link instead, 5 iron 27 195 Mizuno used to manufacture their iron sets with flatter lies than most OEM's partly because the average Japanese male was shorter than the average N. American male. Hitting off a lie board covers the in-store, sell you a set of clubs mantra. Below, we explain everything you need to know about bending golf clubs and suggest when its a good idea. WIth KLP on this one: bending stronger for spin reduction/trajectory is IMHO missing the point, fix impact first. MEMBER REVIEWS: Cleveland Frontline Elite Putters! For example, when the club is flat, the toe of the club makes contact first and gets slowed down a bit so the clubface opens a bit promoting a fade. So, for the sake of your irons, take your clubs to a custom fitter if you plan on bending them. If youre struggling with the current loft degrees of the irons in your bag, then changing the angle of your clubs by bending them could help you improve your ball striking. XXIO X Series 5 Wood! If you take your clubs to a fitter or professional, you can expect to pay somewhere between $5-$20 per club, but a lot will depend on the price of amendments in your local area. Display as a link instead, When buying shoes I noticed a lot of the shoes in the stores inventory were size 10. Ping G400 Testing G410. TXG Custom PXG 0211 6-pw, 1* flat, Recoil ESX 460 R. Callaway MD5 46*, Tour Issue DG S200. So, there is obviously a new standard that the club-manufacturers have begun, so lets say the NEW 7-iron loft . Bending Golf Clubs: Should I Do it and How? Bending a golf club allows you to change the angle of your club, which is an effective way of changing your ball flight. [quote name='HandsomeMatt' timestamp='1441040098' post='12239780'] gonna give the "reality" recommendation so far. 9 iron 41 148 Vokey 54.10, 2009 58.12 M, Testing TM MG2 60* TW grind and MG356* TW grind. 6-iron launch: 17*. Cleveland RTX4 Raw, Low Bounce 55*, Tour Issue DG S400. no i've struggled with a fade all season. 2 degrees up from what? [/quote] We also conclusively say whether or not you should bend your clubs yourself or take them to a custom club fitter to take care of the process for you. I'm also a very high spin player and I'm thinking this might help keep my iron distances consistent, especially when playing in the wind which I often do. You can now expect a bunch of posts citing all of the exceptions to the generalizations set out above. Titleist Response to USGA / R&A Distance Insights. This is especially true of clubs made with long hosels. [/quote] An affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon. [b]I'm guessing when most say they have been bent 2 degrees, they are talking about the loft[/b]. I would tweak loft to adjust my distance gaps. Your previous content has been restored. If they can market a club that will cut down on that slice they are going to sell more clubs. They should be leading and flat. And while you can bend your golf clubs at home, its best to send them to a custom club fitter unless you have invested in a golf club bending machine. Currently I'm playing 712 MB's with x100 shafts at standard loft. Setting aside the discussion about why lofts are getting stronger, I was wondering why someone would bend the lofts strong rather than use the next club in the bag and swing smooth. [/quote] Golf is hard enough without a bag full of easy swings an choke downs? Nike Vapor Flex 9.5* Left/Low, Rogue Max Low 75TX Although the process is relatively straightforward, its all about fine margins, and you can get it wrong if you dont know what youre doing. Epoxy Curing Times for Golf Clubs, Work Life and Shear Strength. Mizuno MP30 5 - PW, AXE Excaliber stiff, Hogan Apex PC E Wedge (50*) TT DG s300 I'm also a very high spin player and I'm thinking this might help keep my iron distances consistent, especially when playing in the wind which I often do. Titleist's 620 MB & Callaway's Apex TCB irons are the next most used with 7. You can also bend the angles to a consistent specification precisely fit for any golfer. Club Repair Seminar shows golfers the importance of checking the specs.. This sounds like a lot of advice from people who have never been high ball speed, high spin, high trajectory players. Or do people change launch angle to decrease bounce? Clear editor. Then again, I'm not sure that the spin you are talking about is a problem. You can strengthen the loft, which will reduce the spin and travel further but won't really fix your problem which I think is too much spin for given trajectory and distance. GIVEAWAY! I have mine bent 2 degrees strong and cannot see any visible difference. See What Members Are Saying! 9% choose stiff+ iron shafts, a flex in-between stiff and extra stiff, but over 70% use either extra stiff or tour extra stiff iron shafts. Abandoned Golf Courses for Sale (How Much?). Naturally, I assume that bending lofts to play stronger will decrease the effective bounce, just like on a wedge. We've chosen this model as it is a popular iron that suits a wide range of players from low handicappers to game improvers. So that could be the difference. about 2-2.5 increase in bounce for 4-5 increase in loft. #3 there are no real cons, bend away and try it. You would still have to take the next club down to get to the distance you want. After all, golf clubs are designed in such a way to ensure that you can pick the precise club out of your bag to hit the ball the required distance. When you start messing around with the hozzels and stress on clubs you need to know what you are doing. the dude who's got no shot at doing that always thinks it's the clubs. [quote name='HandsomeMatt' timestamp='1441040098' post='12239780'] But is bending your golf clubs really a good idea? But it would reduce bounce by 2*, which may affect playability.
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