Thanks for all the info much appreciated. Interesting. He also noted that it appeared to him as if Libby German may have been personally attacked based on the extent of her injuries. The documents, filed in 2020 and heavily redacted, do not mention the murders of Libby and Abby and he has not been accused of involvement in their deaths. Items known to be carried or worn by BG at the time of crime: Loaded handgun in right jacket pocket, type unknown, possibly a rare .40mm collectors item. *The cops refer to cases of scumbag on scumbag shootings as No humans involved or public service killings. Not say that innocent people are killed and hurt in these cases and in some cases the target themselves is completely innocent. But ive also read (this is a rumorif not OK i will delete) that they girls were found apart. And if Mr. X was being tried today and I was on the jury, I would certainly vote to acquit. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. This is simply because Ive dared to question if its possible that he was involved in any capacity or if its possible that he made misleading statements. No, at least not in this case. The investigators do believe that the suspect either lives or works in Delphi, Ind. Watch on Oops, we couldn't find that track. Was present when the Evansdale Murders occurred. Delphi murders: What the unsealed documents reveal and the questions An image taken from the video was released years ago as police asked for information to help them find the unknown suspect. Oh one more thing. Have for a long time. Apparently neither girl was a virgin and both girls were sexually active in terms of PIV sex. The motive was sexual. it would have been nice to track the boot prints around the cemetery to the crime scene to the river but I would assume all that evidence is gone. I think this whole crime scene was severely compromised but still doable He died in 2020 and the case remains unsolved to this day. I dont know if its in a garage, or the shed, perhaps? Even after the arrest of a suspect on Oct. 26, police have declined to answer most questions about the case, saying they don't want to jeopardize the prosecution. You said in your blog that Mr. X was friends with Ron Logan. We have 250 members in our group. Wheres the rest of it? Detectives continue to ask anyone who may have had contact with the screen name anthony_shots to contact law enforcement at abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.comor 765-822-3535. The 50-year-old from Delphi was taken into custody on Friday and booked into Carroll County Jail. He just wanted dirty pictures. Thing is, we cant figure out if it is a crumpled piece of paper, dried leaves, a stuffed toy, or a doll. Theres only one parent. Its very rare for killers to take photos or videos of their crimes. There is no way he would come back later to stage anything because he wouldnt know how safe it was or how many law enforcement would be around. Though she cannot comment on this investigation since its ongoing, she MAY be able to offer clues. He had been there that morning too. If the early rumor is true, and Abby was posed fully clothed as if asleep, it might indicate some remorse or "undoing" by the killer. Too many opinions and he cannot control them. Article: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15568704. According to Leaker, this is correct. Via LE Source A, LE has a main suspect in the Delphi Murders, Mr. X, and the case is focused on him. Investigators have never revealed how the girls died or disclosed details about the crime scene. I would think a crime like this would occur and the perpetrator would be gone. I read 1 of them is still in grief counseling for it- so im pretty sure she doesnt wanna talk about it. LE thinks he stashed his phone at the CPS building during the murders. See the photo Weve got a secret? We think the secret is that one girl is pregnant. My ideas, of course, are just speculative like those put forth by others. In particular, user/tobor is excellent. Would you please email me? Fondled similarly to Libby. The gun failed the tests and was returned to the home. I've seen that a few times. and that he was likely familiar with the Monon High Bridge. Then there is always the question of his occupation. This goes on all the time, however. As far as the serial killer theory goes, I believe there's a good chance BG is already a serial killer or someone who will one day be a serial killer. Im actually a rather shy, introverted, cautious, and extremely polite person who is terrified of making people mad, getting called creepy, offending people, etc. Five years ago today, in Delphi, Ind., two best friends, Abigail Williams, 13, and Liberty German, 14, went missing while on a hike through the city's . Also theres only one way for LE to know that BG filmed his crime if the rumors about sending video of the crime to the girls phones afterwards is true. Faked to make it look like he could not possibly have committed the crime because he was more devastated than anyone else. Both investigators were women. Im limited in my sleuthing skills. Police say they ruled Eldridge out as a suspect, and that he did not match an updated sketch of the suspect. In fact just based on what I have going on, researching this case is the absolute last thing I should be doing, but its drawing me in, and I cant help it. Hes connected to a local sex offender in the area (a friend, or family membercousin?). 6) He has a family member thats buried in the cemetery near the Monon Bridge. The knife in the log was located near the girls right shoulder. Its not clear how? The sheriffs deputy did not work on the case. He later discussed the placement of Abby Williams' body at the crime scene, and he claimed that the victims were not sexually assaulted (none of this information has been publicly released yet). Abby Williams and Libby German were found dead on Feb. 14, 2017. These are simply unverified rumors. Logistical occupations, Construction workers etc who travel have free reign. Unverified. Robert, I believe Mr. X has an ex-wife. That makes no sense. Hi folks. Did the girls have wet clothes where they were found? At the very least he could have made misleading statements. This was a sex crime, a sex homicide. Delphi murders: Crime Scene| Press Conference Update| Bodies Posed I could know that some guy was a serial killer with 10 victims, and I dont have to go to the police. He has long been presumed to be their killer. But alas, he raped one lass too many, and the law closed in on him holed up in his home, which now resembled Dodge City. Thank you! I found your article very interesting and thought provoking. LE has already looked into him quite a bit, and I assume hes cleared. Did anyone here see the crime scene photo(s)? - reddit Police officers announced about the Delphi massacre. Its a dead end. Some claims are listed as unverified. He stopped for gas and cigarettes. I love true crime and listen to a bunch of podcasts and books. Girls in the pedohebephilic age range (8-14 years old) were brazenly abducted two at once from trails in busy parks in rural Midwestern towns in the middle of daytime with many people around. They even try to cure effeminate gay men and let them back in the churches as long as they say theyre cured of homosexuality. Now, that does NOT necessarily indicate staging. So, again, my understanding was, FBI agent was visiting family locally; assisted in search as volunteer; when it became apparent that something more serious/sinister could have happened after the girls were not located by dark, the FBI was requested by local pd and the locally visiting FBI agent facilitated the request. This has been misrepresented by doubters as the scanner saying to let Mrs. X into the sealed off area because shes bringing Mr. X his keys. Paul Etter: A 55 year old local man of many interests. Henceforth, he will be known as LE Source A. But I see the home is raised. Incidentally, this LE detective thinks our police sources are all real sources and thinks we are on the right trail. However, he was one of the searchers who found the bodies, and he was also known to have searched the area in the dark the previous evening. Is that also speculation? Despite mention of a gun, it's not clear if Abby or Libby died from gunshot wounds. We have an LE source, a detective in Indiana, who told us just that. Over the summer, the details of a search warrant revealed that Libby and Abigail were found covered in blood, and that their killer appeared to have taken a souvenir of some sort from the murder site. I dont get that vibe at all with everything I know, but then again I know very little lol. Copyright 2023 Distractify. How do I do this? There was a knife sticking out of the log next to one girls head. We believe that his truck got towed later on when his wife never showed up with the keys, that Mr. X searched Ron Logans land that evening with two other men, and that he left his truck sitting in that same spot for 18 hours until the next day when the bodies were found. Not quite sainthood, but getting there. See? Is there any way on Earth that BG could look like the young man in that sketch or even an 18-40 year old? I do not want to see this man or his family harassed in any way. Instead, their families are holding on to the hope that this is the year their killer is brought to justice. See, Im not like how they say at all, am I? I have an official case document here in my hand. He posted a photo on Facebook around three weeks to a month after the murders. It has been said there were dolls and stuffed animals around the girls. Also, the props were put at the scene later too, perhaps after the girls were killed. There is a lot of controversy about that but it does appear that you can hear on the audio, Is that creepy guy still following us?. Their bodies were discovered the next day in a wooded area around half a mile off the trail. Never knew what the case was against this man other than that he had property near the bridge, and he and his wifes alibi of being out of the state traveling got a bit mangled. Incidentally, we now have a retired homicide detective working as part of our team. Employment history: Unknown prior to 2011. Of course we don't know how the bodies were found and if they were posed or staged, we only know that the crime scene was unbelievable disturbing and horrible. Thats because they havent been told shit. What makes even less sense to me are some of the things that they have said or at least have not challenged as not being factual. It turns out that we have acquired a sleuth who is a former detective. Yes, that is what I referred to; i.e. Welcome to the site! Thank you Mr. Lindsay for significant information on this terrible case. And my ban appeal didnt work either. Why on Earth would anyone hang around near their vehicle for a full day just because they lost their keys? In a press conference on Monday, the state police took the first step towards providing justice to the brutally killed juveniles. Im sure his wife Mrs. X knows or suspects what he has done but she wont roll overKeep up the great work and hopefully they get this SOB! I heard that at the 2019 conference, she burst into tears. Well, hes the right age anyway. He is said to have admitted talking to Libby German using a fake Instagram profile called Anthony_shots. Some of it, I feel, is the result of intentional obfuscation. Delphi Timeline | Actus Reus In my experience, this points to chicanery. Hence, formally, everything Leaker said has gone into unconfirmed rumors other than the things we were able to confirm from other probative sources. There are many people who confuse him with PB in comments and videos. This claims are quite dubious and we dont suggest anyone put any weight into them. Paul, I know exactly what videos you are talking about on YouTube. Is he into numerology? There is no way he would come back later to stage anything because he wouldnt know how safe it was or how many law enforcement would be around. An updated sketch for the suspect was released in April of 2019, and no further information about his appearance has been publicly shared. Today we will Discuss about Delphi murders: Crime Scene| Press Conference Update| Bodies Posed. YesGo to the very first article and I believe there is a Donate button on the page. Also, a copy of the police scanner is available showing that Mr. Xs wife is supposed to be coming to the site to retrieve Mr. Xs truck. We believe he could have been staging that elaborate crime scene during that time. Distance of residence from crime scene at the time of the crime: Less than 2 miles to the east along the creek. We now know a lot of things about the main suspect, including the name, age, height, weight, marital status, possible offspring, address, names of wife and children, and history of his life. This may extend to age 15. LE actually believes BG was 49-50 years old when he committed the crime. The guy that is making those videos about Mr X, and the guy by the name of Derek godsey. Photo shows man arrested over Delphi murders with police sketch of FSG along with others present at the bridge have been investigated as possible lookouts for BG. German was your usual extrovert, with a dream of one day becoming a science teacher. Hi there, have just come across your work and am interested in joining the private group. 2/13, 2:13, 2-13. He was charged with child molestation, and was linked to the Delphi murders because of his strong resemblance to the man in the Delphi video, and a preliminary police sketch investigators had circulated of the suspect. Sexual age orientation: Pedohebephilia, nonexclusive, AOA 8-14. After 5:30 PM, news of the girls going missing went out over the police scanner. Mr. X needed the lost his keys excuse to explain how he stayed in that spot for 18 hours. Find these clothes, they will be what solves this! No Im just a mechanic in Boston Mass. How do you know that LE has someone they believe is BG? FBI agent believed bodies 'staged' in Delphi murders | wthr.com Delphi murder investigators focus on social media profile Watch on Who is the creator behind anthony_shots' fake profile? There are neighbors separated by acreage. Allen has been booked into jail, but no details of any charges made against him have been shared. This is part of what they thought was being said, yes. Could be something more nefarious. 9) He has killed before. Some connection with Libby via geocaching. Could it that the killers were middle aged men, DP and not sure yet, maybe FSG but both dressed exact same so people would be confused? FSG knew everyone in town. Of course, there are trolls saying that the information Ive given is info thats already known. He got turned in because two brothers for some reason were saying that he was BG. The catfish had been catfishing those girls for four months. I dont know this man very well, but he wasnt in on this crime. There is evidence that may have worked at a Tyson packing plant in Logansport in 2011-2012. Distractify is a registered trademark. The rarity of "unusual" [corrected] dispositions of victim bodies Theres only one parent. Mike Patty: Just stop, ok? When we line the two theories against each other, ours wins hands down. You want me to put it up? So Mr. X did not ask him to search for his keys, he was officially asking to search for the girls according to ol Ronny boy. There are men going down on this all the time all over the US. The act of leaving a victim's body in an unusual position is a conscious criminal action by an offender to thwart an investigation, shock the finder and investigators of the crime scene, or give perverted pleasure to the killer. Id prefer stuff thats in the papers. Do we know who this is and why he'd have photos? The rumor that there was a spent cartridge at the scene is therefore confirmed. They are most likely related to one another, but your description of Mr. X confuses the two. This sub is for discussion of the case that's come to be known as the Delphi Murders. For the first time, the warrant reveals that they were killed by some type of weapon but the word is redacted in the document. They were town volunteers, right? Was Mr X aware of the pregnancy and the murder was to hide that fact? Too much points to them to be coincidence. "I've always been concerned about how these two youngsters died. LE still has access to the conviction. This what first aroused LE suspicions of Mr. X. No one else reacted that way. There is a suspected child killer in the Bay Area who is responsible for 5-10 child murders. was unsealed by a county court on Tuesday, revealing key new details. I just got banned from Twitter again for no real good reason, so Im not feeling that great. when you send someone a file, you retain a copy for yourself. I see that you have replied to someone after mine, I am genuinely curious about this difference in graduation dates and would like to chat. Why on Earth would someone stay next to their truck all through one evening and night through the next early AM and morning into the afternoon? Flowers sit by a bridge near Delphi, Ind. Staging vs. Posing in the RL document it says the bodies were staged No one has to believe me when I say LE has a main suspect, but there are number of suspects that ought to be put to rest. This family member may maintain a different surname, by generation, but they are in fact, related! Q&A with Tara and Becky. Where his truck was parked was a five minute walk to the crime scene. People were getting very into it, but I really saw nothing. You learn which rumors have promise and which have not panned out. Stabbing of one girl in the neck artery at some point after the above events. With less than 3,000 residents, Delphi is a town where everyone knows one another, and the murders have greatly affected many locals. They said, Hes just a decoy. But we dont know what that means. The crime scene photos have been widely trashed as paraedolia. Amazingly, Libby German took a video of a man walking behind her and Abby Williams on the bridge, who is believed to be the killer. Libby also shared a snap of herself walking along the same railroad tracks on the day of her murder, with the Snapchat updates causing a sensation that made the case one of the United States' most notorious unsolved murders. We dont know about you all, but when we go visit our friends, we generally dont park a quarter mile away and hike in. But the police are having a very hard time gathering enough evidence against this man to take it to court. Delphi Murders Update April 13, 2021: Stunning Rumors about the Murders Ive seen some FB exchanges from BP where like you say, she appears to be defending Mr X or at least in denial that he could be a suspect. Shes also written a book and is aware of my coverage. There are fields behind his home! Leave this poor man alone, for Gods sake. Not so much for 15 year old girls. DELPHI New chilling details have emerged involving the Delphi deaths investigation. He can be heard saying, "Guys, down the hill," in the short video and investigators created two composite sketches based on this evidence. No, I Dont Lack Credibility or Legitimacy, Alt Left: Hate the Collective But Love the Individual. He detailed other information about the crime scene, and the differences in the girls' apparent injuries. How many times has he been cleared? Have you wrote about what the investigators talked to RL about? He was the right age, but he doesnt look like BG. While it's unclear if police did go to gun stores, Garrett think it's unlikely because there was no mention of a gun in the case until the probable cause document was released Tuesday. This man deserves to be caught and get death penalty. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Im sure its very interesting to posit your wandering speculation about what if this or maybe something or possibly why, who or what, but at the end of the day, its writing words in the air with water vapor to be blown away with the next wind. where Liberty German and Abigail Williams were seen before they were reported missing by their families on Feb. 13, 2017. We believe him. Unverified with Some Likelihood of Being True is a common qualification. 2 people did the actual murders and a woman behind the initial plan. We are not sure of Mr. Xs current job, but we think he might be selling wooden signs that he makes by himself and sells. Im curious if Mr X knew KAK or his father? If the killer had that weird and I would assume rare fetish with the sticks, branches and stakes, maybe the local sex workers may know exactly who it is? I read through it early on, saw interesting stuff and then later came back and tried to find the interesting stuff but got lost. Allen was taken into custody and booked into the Carroll County Jail in connection with the horrific crime. Indiana State Police told ABC News on Tuesday: "Out of respect for the prosecutorial process, which is being led by the Carroll County prosecutor, we are refraining from making any public statements and are going to allow the probable cause affidavit to stand on its own. I saw the picture and while I could see the "face", I didn't see the rest of what people were claiming to see. One problem was we went down the rabbit hole chasing the wrong guy for a couple of years. That person is probably some local creep getting revenge since those girls parents were into the same bullchit. Kline is said to have arranged to meet with Libby on the Delphi High Bridge the day before she was murdered while walking along it. After posting a few updates on Snapchat in the early afternoon hours, the girls were not seen or heard from again. It is important to note that the validity of the text messages has not and cannot be corroborated at this time. IMO I believe "keep them away" was re: bystanders, but for what it's worth, it's debated. It is currently unclear what the. No ones been hurt by this case more than Becky Patty. If so, why? Yes I thought the suspect had been recorded walking on the raailroad tracks on one of the girls phones. ABC News Evidence in the Delphi, Indiana, double murder case was unsealed by a county court on Tuesday, revealing key new details, including that suspect Richard Allen's gun was linked to the crime scene. A book has been published accusing this man of this crime. Also we have excellent sources inside the police with officers who are very close to the investigation. Investigators tracked Logans activities on the day of the murders and determined he was not forthcoming. Pretty soon these fucking machines that are dumber than rocks are going to be making all sorts of unappealable decisions about our lives because the capitalists are too greedy to hire a real human to do the job, so they buy a machine instead. Its all about the zero-sum game. There are many cases of homicides or attempted homicides in the same category. The catfishing situation is not what we think. Alex Oliveira For Dailymail.Com, $49m to live four blocks from THAT drug market? Do you feel that the KAK (Anthony_shots) announcement is a red herring or that its linked to the Delphi murders? Was he set up to take the fall? However, Mindtruth has done a number of episodes on our information and I thank Bruce for that very much. I tune in to their broadcasts and most of it is these narcissists collecting narcissistic supply, which is being doled out by their worshipful audience. A serial killer has a narcissistic personality and will not be able to cope with so many opinions that are different from his, such as on a forum. That would have been quite a problem. Oh, one more thing. Not sure if its Tennessee, or Texas? However, an interesting theory is that BG may have attempted to frame Ron Logan with this crime for obscure reasons. There was posing. The conviction is expunged. I thought there was more to this blog. Hindsight is 20-20 and this case might have been the one case out out of a million that might have borne fruit had they continued searching. Lawyered up, not talking. Its an understandable reaction, but theyre not pleasant to be around. That mod who runs the Libby/Abby Subreddit where LK hosted his Q&A and whom he specifically references (and per himself has given her proof of his real identity) seems to be indicating that LK is not who he claims to be. He is one of the first and only witnesses in this case!!. Then email me and and I will give you the link and password and I will also let you into the new forum where you can set up your own name and password. A 50-year-old suspect, identified as Richard Allen, has been arrested at the Carroll County Jail in connection with the murders of Abigail Williams and Libby German, whose bodies were found near the Delphi Historic Trail shortly after being reported missing in February . I am 100% behind you. The LE source didnt work on the case. Anyway, pastor in a Pentecostal church would be a perfect place for a man like that because those religious people dont care much about Alpha, Beta, and all that stuff. He passed away in 2020. Rumor is that Abbys was pink. Are you serious? FBI says their bodies 'moved and staged' in Delphi murders - WBIW It is an open case so anything else you want to know look and maybe you will find. Besides, hes the wrong age, 27-28. I tend to agree. Its more secure. Bruce was noted for having a similar stature to the man seen in the Delphi video, and also wore similar clothes during his St. Louis crime as the man in the video Libby and Abby took. As CrimeOnline previously reported, 13-year-old Abby and 14-year-old Libby were murdered in 2017, but the killer remains elusive. He is happy to do so. Delphi murders: Killer staged bodies and may have taken souvenir, new documents reveal Shocking new details have come to light about the murders of best friends Libby German, 14, and Abby. Neither Brittany nor Kathy is suspected of having any connection to the killings, and there's no suggestion either woman knew of Allen's alleged links to the murders. I find it notable that not much has been said about the danger to others, I think it has been said that it could not be excluded, but I have not seen any emphatic warnings. So I would definitely hang the jury and let Mr. X walk, and in all probability, BG would be free to walk the streets again. When I was young I would take off till late evening, and it was ok. Let me jump in here. Twice in the the Evansdale Murders, LE thought they were certain that they had the right man. Heavily redacted court documents say that state police and the FBI encountered Kline in 2017 while conducting a search warrant in Peru, Indiana. The problem with this is that a searcher claims he searched the area where the girls were found the night of 2-13 and not only were the girls not there but none of the props were there either. River searched near home of man police say posed . Investigators released a still image from the video and a chilling audio of the man telling the two girls: Go down the hill.. The incident was nicknamed the "Snapchat Murders" after Abby took a photo of Libby at around 2:17 p.m. and put it on social media. However, it is still not clear that Mr. X did this on his own or if someone helped him. We also dont know what he was doing searching down there that night. Delphi murders: Anthony Shots profile tied to Abby & Libby deaths - WANE 15 Both my gut instinct and logic are screaming, Verify the statements of FSG!! Theyre not that common. LE caught Mr. X in the lies about losing his keys, calling his wife to bring him a spare, and a spare even existing in the first place. What are the odds that both parties made up these specific lies on their own? Thats not very many.
