Was Charles Manson a CIA lab rat? | by Justin Ward | Medium Regarding Whitson's interest in sportscars, author Tom O'Neill wrote in his book Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA and the Secret History of the Sixties: Neutralizing the Left The Lawyer Swap Manson's Get-Out-of-Jail-Free Card The Haight-Ashbury Free Medical Clinic Mind Control Where Does It All Go? I've got several comments to make but right now I'm dealing with some personal crap. Whitson was apparently an enigmatic figure, but counted among his friends a large segment of Hollywood and business. . Bugliosi had covered up for Terry Melcher during the trial. I am also considered an information hoarder. hbbd```b`` WA$#. It belonged to them. California Deaths, 1940 - 1997. O'Neill's information on Whitson provides strong support for the proposition that military and intelligence agencies were involved in the Tate LaBianca murders, bringing the CIAs Phoenix program of assassination and torture of Vietnamese non-combatants home to America. I've used it myself. ..the housekeeper* told me, "That flag has always been here. Versions of how the flag got there:Coroner, Thomas T. Noguchi and Joseph DiMonapg132the large American flag draped over the couch. She'd nod and say she knew, but that Gibby and Voityck thought it was very funny. @TY > No offence, but you just come across as someone with an ability to write in capital letters and spout opinions that reveal nothing more than an anti~Bugliosi bias but no actual substance to back up whatever your opinions may be. Is there a pic with the couch with a flag?I can look, but I have to say, I'm just exhausted and will retire for the night.And don't nobody say "yeah". Did Statman swipe it from Lt Deemer when she stole all the other stuff from his house? CAROL!!! Sadie ? If he worked for Bugliosi I don't remember his name being mentioned in his book, unless it was just a sentence and I've forgotten it.BTW, Hatami took many pics of Sharon at Cielo Drive. Correction of typo:[He said] it was impossible that hed move into the Cielo house in January 1969O'Neill's article can be found on the internet, or you can read about Moorehouse in O'Neill's book on pages 116-119. I spot them right away. endstream endobj startxref He was probably there for the bike delivery, the hippie van delivery and at El Coyote dining. Grim said Another, more serious, error in HS, p. 49, is that it gives the license plate of Parent's car as ZLR 694. Grim, in the comment I posted above, I mentioned Dennis Hurst. TY, https://zodiackilleridentified.com/2021/07/. [Irvin is talking about Reeve Whitson - Ed.] Who. William "Rip" Robertson - Wikipedia Kay told him that Manson and Watson had been to the Cielo house when Terry Melcher and Candace Bergen were there. O'Neill also quotes the LAPD's Lt. Helder, who refers to Whitson in the book "Five Down at Cielo Dr" under a pseudonym "Walter Kern," confirmed by LaJeunesse. In January the actual mechanics of HS were barely formulated in Charlie's mind. Facebook gives people the power to share and makes the world more. I have these numbers from ONeills book in reference to Hatami and Whitson: 22239, 144483, 14508, 14542, 14554. Oh Mario I wasn't even talking about you! Took me 20 years but I wrote a book about what y'all know as - Reddit Would he be sent back to jail for speeding ? Anyone that engages with me should by now know that at the very least, notwithstanding my style and sense of humour {or lack thereof !} bill on Twitter: "Let's talk about Reeve Whitson." / Twitter It involved every dirty trick in the book. Robertson was born in Manard, Muskogee County, Oklahoma, on August 3, 1920 [2] and attended Vanderbilt University before and after the war. I neither believe nor disbelieve it although I'm being generous there because you've given me way more reason to disbelieve it. [3] During World War II he enlisted in the . The trial transcript is on Cielodrive.com. His mother was a dancer and his father was a world-renowned acrobat. Speaking of Dean Moorehouse at Cielo Drive, I thought the following quotes in Tom O'Neill's article "The Holes in Helter Skelter" show that he was indeed at the house but during the summer of 1968.Tom O'Neill writes:But when had Moorehouse taken up residence in the Cielo Home? Lazy, perhaps. William Garretson claimed that on the afternoon of August 8 while hitchhiking back to Cielo, some guy dressed as a hippie, picked him up. A little known fact is that Reeve Whitson was involved in the push to make a street legal version of the GT40, otherwise known as the Mark III GT40. Has anyone considered the possibility that Whitson was working for Peter Folger (Abigails Dad)?We know Mr. Folger was having Abigail watched by private detectives because he was very worried about her "associations." "That was Sharon. ONeill interviewed Paul Tate, Sharons father, who said that Whitson was a friend of Roman, Sharon, and Jay. But a lot of people only see what they want to see and if they don't want to see the truth because they don't like it then they won't see it. Her Aunt says my friend knew several foreign languages and had a photographic memory back then. I can't say if that means anything with regard to conspiracy or governmental involvement, but parole violations require neither crime nor conviction. William Alexander " Rip " Robertson Jr. (August 3, 1920 - December 1, 1970) [1] was a Central Intelligence Agency Case Officer in the 1950s, 1960s and 1970. Can you put up Hursts testimony in order to settle who was right, Sanders or Bugliosi? Now Manson is a "secret agent"? Ridgways victims were my age, I was in high school through most of it. However, to be fair to ONeill, when I said that Hatami mentioned Whitson four times, I was being a bit sloppy in my choice of words. But after the murders, it's pouring out of the woodwork {Al Springer, Danny DeCarlo, Virginia Graham, Ronnie Howard, Don Wardand Manson himself as well as other Family members}.Besides which, even if Manson met you and didn't mention a race war, so what ? I actually have been checking in most days since May. In the Sanders book that I have it says Hearst delivered the bike between 6.30 and 7.30 which, according to Hearst is accurate as he testified arriving "about 7.00pm" and left "about 7.20. Mon Durphy said"Winifred testified that the flag was on the couch THE DAYS LEADING UP TO THE MURDERS AND THE DAY OF"Where did she say that? Grim said,The most immediate thing to notice is that Hatami only mentions Whitson once and even then, only because he's asked who he came to Bugliosi's office with. I've thought to myself many times:what if one of those girls would have come over and talked with me, would I have "followed-her-around? Either way it's impressive. He got a call from Reeve Whitson at 7:00 in the morning, a full NINETY minutes before Winifred Chapman arrived at the Cielo houseAnd he didn't report this to the Police ? More on Reeve Whitson - Zodiac Killer Identified Grim glad youre back, where have you been?Odd coincidence do you guys know the judge in the Green River Killer, Gary Ridgway was Richard Jones, Quincy Jones brother. Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA and the Secret History of the Sixties Extended interview: 50 years after the Manson - The Georgia Straight He was a close friend of Sebring, Tate and Polanski. They destroyed thousands of pieces of evidence, RFK Jr. stated.And these are the people we entrusted to get to the bottom of the TLB case. Chapter 6 - Who Was Reeve Whitson? Charles Manson Case - Who Was Reeve Whitson? - YouTube officials, KKK, Satanists, Dixie Mafia, Project Bluebird, and MKULTRA, Lookout Mt. You should have a read of it if you haven't already, with particular attention given to the testimiony of Terry Melcher and Dean Mooorehouse.That Moorehouse had been to Cielo while Melcher lived there in the summer of '68 is no secret. Speaking of Dean Moorehouse at Cielo Drive, I thought the following quotes in Tom O'Neill's article "The Holes in Helter Skelter" show that he was indeed at the house but during the summer of 1968I think you'll find that it was at Dennis Wilson's that Dean had some kind of residence during the summer of '68. He was living with all kinds of people because he didn't want to work and earn a living. Whether he still worked for the CIA, who knows. (as well as Cointelpro and CHAOS agents provocateurs). They had dinner at the restaurant and left about 9:45. 8. That guy was a waste of humanity!!! That guy was a nut-job! The licensing process for model cars began in 1966 with a Scotsman by the name of Reeve Whitson, the first to establish a company that served as an agent to the racing car manufacturers to license their copyrighted designs to model car makers. If the man had any relationship with the US government, he'd have had health coverage. Krenwinkel did not see the flag on the couch. One should remember, it was dark, most of them were unfamiliar with where they were and they weren't exactly studying the scene. But not on substance.because as far as I can see, there hasn't been any.I will say this; I have no idea if you met Charles Manson in January of 1969 on some construction site. He was a close friend of Sebring, Tate and Polanski. He never worked for the CIA, or any other federal agency. He also confirmed a detail from Ed Sanders' "The Family" that Melcher had let him borrow his Jaguar for the long drive to UkiahThis might be high tension wire drama.were it not for the fact that this has been public record since 1971. They were estranged at the time and that was the only way for him to track her. Whitson had worked in Central America during the late 50s, close to the Folger Company's offices (Ecuador?). It worked. Yeah everything's okay, just some stuff I've gotta get thru. ONeill got a lot of help for his book from Stephen Kay. I did not mean the 'scene' of the crime, rather the general milieu around crime scene before and afterI wondered about that but it works either way. A:Yes, I dictated a conversation and under the disclosure order I gave you a copy of my conversation with HatamiQ:I am taliking about when you were vis-a-visA:No, there was no one else there, just Reeves Witson, myself and Mr. Hatami, no other reporter thereQ:Like the court reporter here? Anybody on parole would be arrested immediately and sent back to prison. Chapter 11 - Mind Control; Chapter 10 - The Haight-Ashbury Free Medical Clinic; Chapter 9 - Manson's Get-Out-of-Jail-Free Card; Chapter 8 - The Lawyer Swap; Chapter 7 - Neutralizing the Left; Chapter 6 - Who Was . Anderson was a known handler of CIA operatives after he left government in the early 60s. Lamar said A lot of people only see what they want to seeUnless of course you have no agenda to begin with.Open your minds!Does not the fact that there are so many alternative theories cause you to open your mind and wonder why ? The funniest thing is "Whitson" knows about the murders a full hour before Chapman and who is the first person he tells? This whole ONeill book thing is a collection of tin hat conspiracy bullshitThat, Dave, is being pretty generous.It sounds like Shreck writ large but without the 900+ pages. I have these numbers from ONeills book in reference to Hatami and Whitson: 22239, 14483, 14508, 14542, 14554There's nothing connected with him on page 22239 ~ that's Squeaky's testimony. 2.2K 327 EntertainmentNo1123 5 days ago I applaud Tom O'Neil for his extreme efforts to find the truth. William Weston said ONeill got an unpublished manuscript called Five Down at Cielo Drive written by three authors, Lt. Helder, Paul Tate, and an FBI man named Roger LeJeunnesse. I'd never really thought about it but I noticed on various forums people mentioned Moorehouse living at Cielo as though it were a fact then it occurred to me that if such a close associate of the Family lived in Cielo, that would be a pretty significant thing yet I didn't recall the prosecution making any noise about it. "pg203John Irvin, British film director: "Whitson had very good connections with the Los Angeles Sheriff's Office. Whenever I went over to Sharon's and I'd see the flag there, I'd tell her it wasn't right. Grim saidSanders is right.The first Tate homicide report states exactly what Sanders says in your quote. What does that prove ? He was a very dark player. I can imagine him being scared shitless, looking out of a window, realizing something VERY bad was going down, and just shutting down. Reeve Whitson Profiles - Facebook Sheilah nodded. 7 Mind-Blowing Things We Learned From Joe Rogan's Charles Manson Rick Dalton got Susan with the flamethrower and Cliff Booth smashed Krenwinkels face into the phone, fireplace mantle, glass picture on the wall and the coffee table so it's all good. officials, KKK, Satanists, Dixie Mafia, Project Bluebird, and MKULTRA, Lookout Mt. Maybe Whit Reeveson is like an imaginary friend. It's not like the Moorehouse affair which is plain wrong. They were connected to Ed Durston, boyfriend of Diane Linkletter. He boasted about his activities in South America, for instance his involvement in the capture of Che Guevara . The next morning when he heard about the murders, he was worried his son was among them. ONeill interviewed Hatami who said that Bugliosi knew Reeve very wellHow would Hatami, who met Bugliosi only a couple of times, and on official business {ID photos, trial} know who Bugliosi knew, well or otherwise ?Hatami also told ONeill that he first heard about the murders from Reeve. Winifred Chapman claims the flag was there so either you take the word of a murderess or the flag was on the couch when Chapman left on Friday afternoon and then put back by whoever went back to the scene, perdonallp I believe it was there and Krenwinkels goofy ass didn't notice it or just plain lied, like Harold True said "Krenwinkel carries her brains in a lunchbox" lol. Scares the shit out of me to think of it. WG specifically remembered that. Supposedly Debra Tate has the manuscript for the book, one of the claims in it was that Paul Caruso was representing Tom Harrigan and when Helder saw the new MDA drug on the to reports he wanted to get a sample analyzed but didn't know where to come by it so he asked Caruso if Hartigan would give him a sample and he did, it's awfully convenient how often Caruso's name pops up in the TLB saga. There's about a 6 minute long clip on YouTube put up a couple of months ago of Hurst telling the story of delivering the bike to Cielo, he talked about meeting Sebring at the front door when he knocked and dropping Abigail's new bike off in the garage and taking another one back to the store, I'd have to listen again to see what time he claims but obviously the time he gave at the time of the murders is probably going to be more accident since hardly any time has elapsed. I also was conscious of not rehashing and repeating myself, especially when many of the issues that were brought up, I'd commented on endlessly over the past 4 years. katie8753 said"I've still never heard of Reeve Whitson.Who was Reeve Whitson? That said, in some cases it's understandable.In the case of Bugliosi's book, the errors regarding the Hearst bike delivery times and the Parent/Sharon car registrations aren't ones that I regard as serious. Yes he did but I was talking about at first I had always heard he actually came looking for Manson and when he found him at Spahn Charlie was able to run his game on Dean and supposedly Dean became a disciple even giving Charlie a baby grand piano for free which I believe Charlie traded for the black bus, what's creepy about Dean is that he was old even in 69, he was born in 1920 which made him damn near a decade and a half older than Manson and 30 years older than the other members of the group.
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